From simon at metamute.com Fri May 13 11:56:50 2005 From: simon at metamute.com (Simon Worthington) Date: Fri May 13 11:56:52 2005 Subject: [Consume-thenet] [Fwd: [ukriders] [Fwd: [plan] Going wireless]] Message-ID: <428487F2.1030306@metamute.com> Hiya, Maybe someone is interested in this commission Simon -------- Original Message -------- Subject: [ukriders] [Fwd: [plan] Going wireless] Date: Fri, 13 May 2005 11:52:31 +0100 From: Paula Graham Reply-To: ukriders@lists.lasa.org.uk To: penguin-org@lists.lasa.org.uk, Riders Anyone know anyone who either wants to help them out or get some paid work setting up the project for them? -------- Original Message -------- Subject: [plan] Going wireless Date: Thu, 12 May 2005 21:25:18 +0100 (BST) From: John Rogers Reply-To: Pervasive and Locative Arts Network To: plan@Cs.Nott.AC.UK Hi, This is a message part searching for advice, part requesting collaborators. We're producing a public art project based in High Wycombe, Buckinghamshire which will entail documenting a live performance around the hills of the town. This performance which is actually a walk to link up significant sites, will be broadcast via a mobile phone video camera to a base station in the town centre. The base station will then project the walk, onto a screen to an audience. The base station is located in an old listed building in the centre of town, itself a significant site and has no cable running to it for connection to the internet. I'm getting mixed advice about how to connect wirelessly to the internet - any suggestions? Or is anyone interested in some paid work to help us set up this event up technically. If you're interested in finding out more, contact me on 07958 668255 or via this mailing list. Check out our blog for a detailed account of the project http://remappinghighwycombe.blogspot.com I look forward to hearing from you. Cathy ___________________________________________________________ How much free photo storage do you get? Store your holiday snaps for FREE with Yahoo! Photos http://uk.photos.yahoo.com _______________________________________________ plan mailing list plan@cs.nott.ac.uk http://www.cs.nott.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/plan This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses, which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. -- Paula Graham T: 020 7480 7332 M: 07759 710481 www.alt-synergy.co.uk 59 Matilda House St Katharine's Way London E1W 1LG ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Any documents attached are in OpenOffice format with additional copies converted for MS Office. Converted documents may contain formatting errors. To view the originals, download the free OpenOffice suite for MS Windows at www.openoffice.org _________________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: ukriders@lists.lasa.org.uk To be removed from the list, send any message to: ukriders-unsubscribe@lists.lasa.org.uk For all list information and functions, including changing your subscription mode and options, visit the Web page: http://lists.lasa.org.uk/lists/info/ukriders --------------------------------------------------------- This list is hosted at NPOGroups.org, a service of Electric Embers: Internet hosting services for the community http://electricembers.net From john at littlewick.org.uk Wed May 18 09:28:15 2005 From: john at littlewick.org.uk (John Croft) Date: Wed May 18 09:28:19 2005 Subject: [Consume-thenet] 802.11a links Message-ID: <428AFC9F.9020804@littlewick.org.uk> Hi All, Has anyone tried any legal long-range links using 802.11a? Any suggestions for equipment which is complient with UK regs, cheap and reliable ? Am I right in thinking that all the exclusion zones are now gone ? thanks, John From steve-consume at gbnet.net Wed May 18 12:08:37 2005 From: steve-consume at gbnet.net (Steve Kennedy) Date: Wed May 18 12:08:44 2005 Subject: [Consume-thenet] 802.11a links In-Reply-To: <428AFC9F.9020804@littlewick.org.uk> References: <428AFC9F.9020804@littlewick.org.uk> Message-ID: <20050518110837.GD21408@gbnet.net> On Wed, May 18, 2005 at 09:28:15AM +0100, John Croft wrote: > Has anyone tried any legal long-range links using 802.11a? > Any suggestions for equipment which is complient with UK regs, cheap and > reliable ? > Am I right in thinking that all the exclusion zones are now gone ? 802.11a is NOT legal in the UK for outdoor use. There's an IEEE spec (I don't believe ratified yet) 802.11h that is a modified to be ETSI compliant. You can get kit that is ETSI approved, but it must support Transmit Power Control (TPC) and Dynamic Frequency Selection (DFS). Make sure the kit has a CE mark on it or it's illegal. Basically in 5.8GHz there are 3 bands, A, B and C. A is ONLY allowed for indoor use, B only for nomadic outdoor (i.e. mobile, not fixed links) and C only for fixed links. Ofcom have implemented a "light licensing regime" for Band C where every terminal has to be licensed (GBP 1 pa), however there's a minimum fee of GBP 50pa which means registering their location. Ofcom can refuse a license (military and government still use some bits of the band). Interestingly Ofcom have just paid Quinetiq GBP 500M to design/implement some detector systems so they can better police the various bands!!! Steve -- NetTek Ltd Phone/Fax +44-(0)20 7483 2455 Skype/In callto://stevekennedyuk / UK callto://+442088167166 US callto://+13106518226 mob 07775 755503 Personal Blog http://stevekennedy.blogspot.com Euro Tech News Blog http://eurotechnews.blogspot.com From vortex at free2air.net Wed May 18 17:16:59 2005 From: vortex at free2air.net (vortex) Date: Wed May 18 17:17:39 2005 Subject: [Consume-thenet] 802.11a links In-Reply-To: <20050518110837.GD21408@gbnet.net> References: <428AFC9F.9020804@littlewick.org.uk> <20050518110837.GD21408@gbnet.net> Message-ID: <1116433019.12476.15.camel@osculation.free2air.net> > Interestingly Ofcom have just paid Quinetiq GBP 500M to design/implement > some detector systems so they can better police the various bands!!! *cough* that's quite a few pesos .... any further inside info on that? shine, .vortex -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Coincidently there office is five mins from mine. -----Original Message----- From: consume-thenet-bounces+charliebarker=redlinesoftware.co.uk@lists.consume.net [mailto:consume-thenet-bounces+charliebarker=redlinesoftware.co.uk@lists.con sume.net] On Behalf Of vortex Sent: 18 May 2005 17:17 To: Steve Kennedy Cc: consume-thenet@lists.consume.net Subject: Re: [Consume-thenet] 802.11a links > Interestingly Ofcom have just paid Quinetiq GBP 500M to > design/implement some detector systems so they can better police the various bands!!! *cough* that's quite a few pesos .... any further inside info on that? shine, .vortex From reagan at whatever.net.au Wed May 18 19:20:03 2005 From: reagan at whatever.net.au (Reagan Blundell) Date: Wed May 18 19:20:13 2005 Subject: [Consume-thenet] 802.11a links In-Reply-To: <1116433019.12476.15.camel@osculation.free2air.net> References: <428AFC9F.9020804@littlewick.org.uk> <20050518110837.GD21408@gbnet.net> <1116433019.12476.15.camel@osculation.free2air.net> Message-ID: <20050518182002.GA15827@desire.whatever.net.au> On Wed, May 18, 2005 at 05:16:59PM +0100, vortex wrote: > > Interestingly Ofcom have just paid Quinetiq GBP 500M to design/implement > > some detector systems so they can better police the various bands!!! > > *cough* > > that's quite a few pesos .... > > any further inside info on that? Not inside info, but a press release on Quinetiq's website is here: http://www.qinetiq.com/home/newsroom/news_releases_homepage/2005/2nd_quarter/qinetiq_consortium.html From steve-consume at gbnet.net Wed May 18 19:24:15 2005 From: steve-consume at gbnet.net (Steve Kennedy) Date: Wed May 18 19:24:18 2005 Subject: [Consume-thenet] 802.11a links In-Reply-To: <1116433019.12476.15.camel@osculation.free2air.net> References: <428AFC9F.9020804@littlewick.org.uk> <20050518110837.GD21408@gbnet.net> <1116433019.12476.15.camel@osculation.free2air.net> Message-ID: <20050518182415.GA17264@gbnet.net> On Wed, May 18, 2005 at 05:16:59PM +0100, vortex wrote: > > Interestingly Ofcom have just paid Quinetiq GBP 500M to design/implement > > some detector systems so they can better police the various bands!!! > *cough* > that's quite a few pesos .... > any further inside info on that? > shine, Err, of course that should have been GBP 0.5M or GBP 500,000 .... ooops. Steve -- NetTek Ltd Phone/Fax +44-(0)20 7483 2455 Skype/In callto://stevekennedyuk / UK callto://+442088167166 US callto://+13106518226 mob 07775 755503 Personal Blog http://stevekennedy.blogspot.com Euro Tech News Blog http://eurotechnews.blogspot.com From james at spc.org Wed May 18 20:52:00 2005 From: james at spc.org (James Stevens) Date: Wed May 18 20:52:09 2005 Subject: [Consume-thenet] 802.11a links In-Reply-To: <20050518182415.GA17264@gbnet.net> Message-ID: Ha, So they won't get much for that tiddly budget... Nice to read the notes regarding 5ghz and to hear those reassuring tones Steve.. So how re you getting on with the new job..? I hope you not all going to get all shaky about your link compliance, for those with ongoing will to experiment will find out for themselves how much of a help a clear band will be... We have just the one C band link to Deckspace from Rebus 3km which when it works is great.. Its down though at the mo so you will find consume web offline again.. Thank heavens Jasper hosts the mail lists.. Easy James On 18/5/05 7:24 pm, "Steve Kennedy" wrote: > On Wed, May 18, 2005 at 05:16:59PM +0100, vortex wrote: > >>> Interestingly Ofcom have just paid Quinetiq GBP 500M to design/implement >>> some detector systems so they can better police the various bands!!! >> *cough* >> that's quite a few pesos .... >> any further inside info on that? >> shine, > > > Err, of course that should have been GBP 0.5M or GBP 500,000 .... ooops. > > > Steve > James Stevens : [+44] 07973318881 : james@spc.org Deckspace +44 20 7558 8936 : http://dek.spc.org Borough Hall, Royal Hill, Greenwich, London SE10 8RE Make a Zine of your OWN : http://own.spc.org From john at littlewick.org.uk Wed May 18 22:15:31 2005 From: john at littlewick.org.uk (John Croft) Date: Wed May 18 22:15:51 2005 Subject: [Consume-thenet] 802.11a links In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <428BB073.4020100@littlewick.org.uk> Any recommendations for equipment? cheers, John James Stevens wrote: >Ha, > >So they won't get much for that tiddly budget... > >Nice to read the notes regarding 5ghz and to hear those reassuring tones >Steve.. So how re you getting on with the new job..? > >I hope you not all going to get all shaky about your link compliance, for >those with ongoing will to experiment will find out for themselves how much >of a help a clear band will be... We have just the one C band link to >Deckspace from Rebus 3km which when it works is great.. Its down though at >the mo so you will find consume web offline again.. Thank heavens Jasper >hosts the mail lists.. > >Easy > >James > > On 18/5/05 7:24 pm, "Steve Kennedy" wrote: > > > >>On Wed, May 18, 2005 at 05:16:59PM +0100, vortex wrote: >> >> >> >>>>Interestingly Ofcom have just paid Quinetiq GBP 500M to design/implement >>>>some detector systems so they can better police the various bands!!! >>>> >>>> >>>*cough* >>>that's quite a few pesos .... >>>any further inside info on that? >>>shine, >>> >>> >>Err, of course that should have been GBP 0.5M or GBP 500,000 .... ooops. >> >> >>Steve >> >> >> > >James Stevens : [+44] 07973318881 : james@spc.org > >Deckspace +44 20 7558 8936 : http://dek.spc.org >Borough Hall, Royal Hill, Greenwich, London SE10 8RE > >Make a Zine of your OWN : http://own.spc.org > > > >_______________________________________________ >Consume-thenet mailing list >Consume-thenet@lists.consume.net >http://lists.consume.net/mailman/listinfo/consume-thenet > > From consumercitizen at informal.org.uk Fri May 20 11:41:32 2005 From: consumercitizen at informal.org.uk (Julian Priest) Date: Fri May 20 11:38:08 2005 Subject: [Consume-thenet] wireless utopias at Dana Centre In-Reply-To: <20050427112254.GB16842@threonine.spc.org> References: <20050425155126.GF2385@mythix.realprogrammers.com> <20050427112254.GB16842@threonine.spc.org> Message-ID: <20050520104131.GD99577@threonine.spc.org> Hi all, here are final panel and program notes for next weeks OpenspectrumUK event. Hope to see you there and appologies for cross posts. chrs ~/julian --------------------------------------------------------------------- You are invited to: + Wireless Utopias 05: An Open Future for Spectrum? + + May 26th, 7-9pm at the Science Museum's Dana Centre + + 165 Queensgate, London SW7, South Kensington Tube + ==== NB: The event is free but you need to register by mailing your request to bookings@cybersalon.org . Registration is on a first come first served basis. Places are strictly limited. Venue details: http://cybersalon.org More info: http://openspectrum.org.uk ==== Open Spectrum UK and Cybersalon host a unique debate on the future of wireless communications and the strategic prospects for utilising the radio spectrum. The context for the event is the UK communications regulator Ofcom's Spectrum Framework Review, which is exploring wide ranging changes to the way radio spectrum is regulated in the UK. We bring together a roundtable of international and UK experts and regulators to explore the big issues of technology, regulation and society. Audience Q & A will explore wireless utopias from the Open Market to Open Spectrum. + Panel: Michael Marcus (former FCC, USA) .. worked for the US regulator the FCC, helping to create the unlicensed bands we use for WiFi, and was involved in the recent FCC Spectrum Policy Task Force. Dewayne Hendricks (Dandin Group, USA) .. wireless activist and policy commentator. Dr. Onno Purbo (Rebelnet Indonesia) ... independent researcher and instigator of a DIY wireless movement in Indonesia that is responsible for getting literally millions of Indonesians online. Peter Bury (Ofcom, UK) .. Ofcom's Director of Strategic Resources, with responsibility for licensing radio frequencies for mobile communications, fixed wireless broadband, sound broadcasting and television. William Webb (Ofcom, UK) .. Head of R&D at Ofcom. Gordon Adgey(Broadband 4 Devon, UK) .. wireless pioneer of Buckfastleigh Broadband, now involved in Broadband4Devon. Peter Cochrane (Concept Labs, UK) .. former CTO of BT, technology visionary and a public critic of the 3G autions. + Provocateur: John Wilson (OpenSpectrumUK) ... broadband and communications policy advocate, member of the Wales Broadband Stakeholder Group. ==== OpenSpectrumUK was formed in 2005 to co-ordinate a response to Ofcom's Spectrum Framework Review. Open Spectrum UK argues for a balance of the commercial and the public interest in access to and use of the radio spectrum. Wireless Utopias 05 is supported by the Open Society Institute and is part of the Wireless London season. OpenSpectrumUK is convened by John Wilson and Julian Priest http://openspectrum.org.uk ==== NB: The event is free but you need to register by mailing your request to bookings@cybersalon.org . Registration is on a first come first served basis. Places are strictly limited. Venue details: http://cybersalon.org More info: http://openspectrum.org.uk ====